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Post by Eleanor Rigby on Oct 29, 2013 20:35:42 GMT
So, at 4 o'clock this afternoon my H gets a call from his PCP telling him that as of November 1st they will no longer be taking his SSI. It was damn near impossible to find him a primary care physician to start with and now we have to do it again just a year later! Fucking Obama, I swear I hate that man more every day, he could fuck up a wet dream! All of our doctors in America are starting to drop Medicaid and Medicare because of this stupid Obamacare.
My sister went on the website to get her "affordable" insurance quote for her, her husband and 3 kids. It's going to cost her $1000 dollars a month!!! Her husband is on SSA and only gets about $1000 a month!!
My H is now saying he isn't going to bother finding another doctor to which I said he had better and he asked me why he had better worry....I gave him a few moments of silence to figure that one out...he did. He assured me he had plenty of refills on his meds, I know what he has, I'm the one who orders them each month. If he runs out and does not have a new PCP I'm outta here!
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Post by Elementum on Oct 30, 2013 10:44:53 GMT
lol
Sounds most irritating ER. I have no clue about the new health care in the US of A other than, it is brutally expensive and ought to be illegal to do that to a country as a whole. Big Pharma rulez over there.
How are you keeping otherwise?
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Post by Eleanor Rigby on Oct 30, 2013 15:37:00 GMT
Basically, Obama now requires us to have health insurance as a law just like car insurance. If we do not have health insurance then we get fined every year for each person in our household who is not insured. The first year is $95, the second year is $285 and the third year is $695. Every year after that is adjusted for inflation. If I can't afford to buy health insurance to begin with then the fine won't be getting paid either. And of course every one from the president down the line in politics is exempt from the requirement. How is that fair? It is bound for failure because it simply cannot be sustained with the requirements Obama has set forth.
I love my country but I hate my government.
As for life in general? It's no better, no worse. How are you doing?
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Post by Elementum on Oct 31, 2013 1:24:07 GMT
How much is the insurance? Curious. As I recall that health insurance was pretty insane, had so many exempting clauses that it was bonkers and when you needed it, you were somehow not covered for said ailment. Forget now the % of people without health care. People were going to Canada to get their Rx filled because meds were over priced to hell and back. Which I do know is true, because the exact same meds overseas, by the same company and manufacturing location are a fraction of the cost!
I am ok...hoooo...
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Post by Eleanor Rigby on Oct 31, 2013 3:20:02 GMT
The insurance rates for any plan varies dramatically here in the states, the "Obummer"care is as much as 200% more expensive than if you get insurance through your employer or privately. My sister checked it out for herself, her husband and their 3 kids and it's going to cost them $1000 a month in premiums, that's $12,000 a year for insurance they may never use! A person working for just minimum wage makes only $15,000 per year. How the hell do you live on just $3000 per year???
What's worse is insurance companies are dropping people right and left because they do not meet the requirements of Obamacare AND our employers are cutting ppl's hours below full time so they aren't eligible for employer provided health insurance. Obama is tearing our country apart from the inside out and no one is doing anything to stop him.
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Post by Elementum on Oct 31, 2013 6:43:57 GMT
Nutz...where are the numbers coming from? Here? Been paying less than $300.00 mth for 5 people. Gone up a bit over the years but not insane. Covers, dental, hospital, eye care. Any extras come out of pocket but basic are well covered. Meds are cheap. And pay $6.00 to see the doctors. Cheap. First class medical care to boot.
The US gridlock is Big P is my guess.
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Post by Eleanor Rigby on Oct 31, 2013 17:54:42 GMT
I honestly don't know how they calculate what each person will pay but I do know that it's outrageous and I refuse to enroll in it. Let them fine me because it won't get paid. What will they do next? Jail me? I think not.
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Post by Elementum on Nov 1, 2013 1:07:04 GMT
It is outrageous. I have no idea how they calculate that. But when the Have's calculate for the Have Not So Much's, the numbers are really bad. US health Scare system is brutal in many regards. Excellent care is available, but it costs an arm and a leg. Read some horror stories about it years back. A guy went blind an electrician, because he could not afford the diabetes meds, he was an electrician and died on the job because he was feeling the lines and was electrocuted, He had a wife and 2 children. Just so sad.
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Post by Eleanor Rigby on Nov 1, 2013 14:57:10 GMT
That is sad and I can relate. There have been months that I could not afford my meds and I have some serious health issues including diabetes. Not only is our healthcare and medications outrageously expensive but our healthcare system is seriously lacking in a lot of other ways. The medical staff in our hospitals and other care facilities is painfully understaffed which leads to many, many mistakes being made at the cost of lives.
There were only two hospitals when my mother and I moved to this town and there are three cases of young men dying in the waiting room of one of those hospitals because of the hospital being dangerously understaffed, the patients complaints and symptoms not being taken seriously or they were misdiagnosed.
In one case the young man was in his 30's, came into the ER with chest pain, was taken to the triage room and hooked up to the EKG. He was then sent back to the waiting room where he later died from a heart attack. Come to find out, as the young man was hooked up to the EKG, he was in the throes of a heart attack. No one who read the EKG had caught it INCLUDING the cardiologist. The other two stories are similar, people came in with serious complaints that were either ignored or misdiagnosed and they died in the waiting room while awaiting medical care. Until 2002 the average wait time in either hospital was a minimum of 8 hours just to be called back to be triaged which did not include being placed into a room to receive any care. It wasn't until our third hospital was built that the wait time fell to just minutes.
My nephew was rushed into the ER of that same hospital with life threatening injuries. He had put his arm through the glass of a storm door and was bleeding to death. When he got to the hospital they took him back and put him in a room immediately but they left him there and ignored him. By the time I got there he was a sickly ashen color and in and out of consciousness, I yelled for someone to come check him out and when they removed the bandage on his arm he started bleeding out. He had severed the artery in his arm along with other vessels, nerves, tendons and muscles. Nurses were scrambling to care for him then and got a doctor in there double quick to assess him and get him in surgery. He almost died.
The same thing happened to my husbands grandmother, she was complaining of pain in her stomach and back and nothing she took was relieving it. I took her to the ER that night and we waited 8 hours to have her seen. Her x-rays came back with slight osteoporosis and her bloodwork came back okay except for her liver enzymes which were elevated. She was told to see her PCP and discharged. When I took her to the appt. with her PCP the doctor looked over her discharge papers then looked at her and said "Well, you are 80 years old after-all. You're bound to have aches and pains." and sent her home. 4 months later she died of metastatic cancer of the pancreas.
I don't mean to suggest that our healthcare system is incompetent but, because of the politics and the fact that most hospitals are in it for profit or they are community funded, it's the people who suffer.
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Post by Elementum on Nov 2, 2013 15:15:52 GMT
The profit margin on meds is ludicrous. R&D accounts for 3% of total expenditure, over 50% is spent on advertising!
Yeah...I don't have a lot of patience for the health scare system as it stands. I am fortunate where I am, it is very affordable and still people complain.
Big P is a dirty game. The more I read up on it, the more frightening. Just glad I am not caught in it.
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Post by Eleanor Rigby on Nov 2, 2013 19:42:50 GMT
If I could find a better country to live I would seriously consider leaving here. I haven't done any research yet.
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Post by Elementum on Nov 3, 2013 2:23:20 GMT
Good thinking outside the box. Here is good for health care and life style. Depends what you like. But is very different to N.America and Europe. Work these days it a little slow, but would depend on what you qualify for. That's the usual sticky part. I am free of that now, but others are not. Being free of the old rules I am now able to make more.
Canada is also not bad. Health care bit better than the USA. Not leaps and bounds, but there is work in nursing as well. No huge culture shock either.
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Post by Eleanor Rigby on Nov 3, 2013 15:54:55 GMT
I have researched Canada a bit and it doesn't seem it would be too bad. I love England and I think Australia would be a lot of fun EXCEPT for those damn spiders! Anyway, I just can't stand to be that far away from my baby sister. Of course Mexico is NOT an option lol, it's too damn rough there and too dangerous these days besides, from the things I see and hear coming from there it's not a good place to live anyway.
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Post by Elementum on Nov 3, 2013 17:35:59 GMT
Spiders?
Huntsman spiders? I've not been to Oz, but hear that it is wonderful. England is pretty. How's you Spanish? Farther South might be nice. Argentina?
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Post by Eleanor Rigby on Nov 3, 2013 23:02:54 GMT
Yeah, Huntsmen spiders. OMG they're huge! We have them here too where I live but you rarely see them. We have to deal more with the Hobo spiders *shivers*
I'm not big on the spanish/latin countries but still worth it to check them out.
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